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Does anyone know where the shorter man is welcomed?

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After looking at heightism on Wikipedia, it is shown that there are some places that regulate height discrimination; however, are there any other places for which the shorter man can migrate to?  Is there any place in the world where height is not looked at in terms of careers and women?  I'm curious, what are your thoughts on some parts of Europe? or Japan?   

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After looking at heightism on Wikipedia, it is shown that there are some places that regulate height discrimination; however, are there any other places for which the shorter man can migrate to?  Is there any place in the world where height is not looked at in terms of careers and women?  I'm curious, what are your thoughts on some parts of Europe? or Japan?   

I'd say romance communities - Hispanic, French, Italian. For some reason Masculinity isn't tied to physical attributes (though it helps), but more to your word, your conviction and connections. Italy has a history of short presidents and in many Hispanic communities, it's common to see 5'4+ guys w/girlfriends and wives, some even being players. 

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After looking at heightism on Wikipedia, it is shown that there are some places that regulate height discrimination; however, are there any other places for which the shorter man can migrate to?  Is there any place in the world where height is not looked at in terms of careers and women?  I'm curious, what are your thoughts on some parts of Europe? or Japan?   

I'd say romance communities - Hispanic, French, Italian. For some reason Masculinity isn't tied to physical attributes (though it helps), but more to your word, your conviction and connections. Italy has a history of short presidents and in many Hispanic communities, it's common to see 5'4+ guys w/girlfriends and wives, some even being players. 

Thank you.  I agree.  It seems in those areas shorter men are given more respect - as opposed to the U.S., China, and possibly Korea, where heightism seems to be the most pervasive in those areas.  

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Unknown, any idea why that is?

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Unknown, any idea why that is?

Why what is, Josh?

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Thank you.  I agree.  It seems in those areas shorter men are given more respect - as opposed to the U.S., China, and possibly Korea, where heightism seems to be the most pervasive in those areas.  

This. Why do you think that is?

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Thank you.  I agree.  It seems in those areas shorter men are given more respect - as opposed to the U.S., China, and possibly Korea, where heightism seems to be the most pervasive in those areas.  

This. Why do you think that is?

I believe Japan and some parts of Europe would respect shorter men.  Why? Because if you look at their culture, they don't have that "Bigger is better masculinity" ideology as much as the U.S.  Look at their cars for example, Euro and Japanese cars are smaller and compact as opposed to "American Muscle".  You may think that is irrelevant, but the sizes of apparatuses used in life can be linked to culture.  Look at Japan's anime, the smaller man tends to be the main character.  I'm also thinking that geography might have something to do with culture and height.  Notice how Japan and the parts of Europe are smaller nations?  With that said, I study history.  Both of their histories express the "small rising up".             

And height discrimination seems to be common in U.S., China, and maybe Korea.  I will explain my reasoning in the following:  For U.S., look at the ideology that is present there: "The bigger the better."  The American culture exclaims that and it ends up coinciding with height.  American kids are taught that "taller is better," Here's some anecdotal evidence: In elementary school when the teacher makes us get in order based on height.  Taller gets the front, shorter gets the back.  "Tall" ends up becoming synonymous with "good".  After all, you never hear a person say, "Wow! he/she is so short!"(As a compliment).  The same issue occurs in China; in fact, I think it is worse over there.  They have height requirements for career ads.  A documentary states that shorter men have no hope there, i.e. China.  It is an extreme elitist society that is grounded on superficial thought.  For example, look at their social structure: the darker skin people do manual labor whereas the lighter skin hold 'clean' jobs.  I have been there.  Korea also adopts these systems from China and U.S.

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After looking at heightism on Wikipedia, it is shown that there are some places that regulate height discrimination; however, are there any other places for which the shorter man can migrate to?  Is there any place in the world where height is not looked at in terms of careers and women?  I'm curious, what are your thoughts on some parts of Europe? or Japan?   

I'd say romance communities - Hispanic, French, Italian. For some reason Masculinity isn't tied to physical attributes (though it helps), but more to your word, your conviction and connections. Italy has a history of short presidents and in many Hispanic communities, it's common to see 5'4+ guys w/girlfriends and wives, some even being players. 

Hi. I'm South  American (from Colombia) . I respect your point of view but I don't fully agree with you... Certainly in latin American nations you can see many short men with girlfriends or wives... but this is because the average height for latin American men is about 5'8''! however, trust me, latin American women fancy tall men... Latin American women are also known for saying "I  like tall men" . If you watch latin American soap operas you will see how the main male protagonist is usually a tall guy! In my own family I have seen how they place a high emphasis on a man's height... This is pretty disappointing!  Now, the "good news" is that in latin America you're likely to be considered "Tall" if you're 5'10'.... I know that in the U.S. you wouldn't be considered "Tall"  if 5'10'' was your height.

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Hi. I'm South  American (from Colombia) . I respect your point of view but I don't fully agree with you... Certainly in latin American nations you can see many short men with girlfriends or wives... but this is because the average height for latin American men is about 5'8''! however, trust me, latin American women fancy tall men... Latin American women are also known for saying "I  like tall men" . If you watch latin American soap operas you will see how the main male protagonist is usually a tall guy! In my own family I have seen how they place a high emphasis on a man's height... This is pretty disappointing!  Now, the "good news" is that in latin America you're likely to be considered "Tall" if you're 5'10'.... I know that in the U.S. you wouldn't be considered "Tall"  if 5'10'' was your height.

While I don't doubt this is true, you just see more short men short woman couples and tall woman short man couples where the woman is Latina here in New York at least. I can't speak for the rest of the U.S.A. I think that is where the stereotype that Latin women care less about height and more about machismo comes from. 

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I lived in the Philippines (Clark Air Base) for a few years.  At 5'5" I was average in height.  Also, masculinity there is based on the ability to make money and support a family.  Compared to that, height and muscles don't mean much.

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